Some comments from the Reconceptualising engineers and engineering practice panel

Eric: Guilds and apprenticeships are not unproblematic.

Andres: Usman is engineering inherently militarist, white supremacist, patriarchal etc.?

Usman: I think we can say there is a mindset of listening to authority, but was making generalisations. I think we…

Andres: So you say YES. Usman: … YES. Dean: If it really is so, why are we here?

Others: Yeah.

Doug: Referring back to the relevance of Heidegger’s question of “What is the essence of technology?”

Chris Rose: Nothing can be inherently anything. In ancient times eng was as much about complex magical devises as problem solving.

Andres: Discourse analysis of engineering… If we want to do something we need to change what engineering means…

Notes from Katy from the “Access to engineering education” panel

The talk was framed around the topic of social mobility. Matthew talked about access to universities and degree programs in terms of graduate premiums and professional status of their graduating students.

There is an underrepresentation of women and those from a lower socio-economic status in engineering classrooms.

Efforts are underway to address these issues.
1.building the business case of a diverse engineering workforce
a.by showing that creativity is increased
b.by showing that complex difficult questions are better solved
c.by showing that highly skilled graduates are good for competition
2.conducting outreach in schools through activities that are appropriate and relevant to the area, and that include a role model
3.getting engaged with the mainstream education process of STEM learner hours:
a.extracurricular engagement:
a.i.recruitment
a.ii.understanding what engineering is all about
a.iii.building an identity (that can be very fragile)
b.curricular engagement:
b.i.help to develop curriculum
b.ii.make sure it is relevant
b.iii.build self efficacy

Notes from Lisa McLoughlin

The talk followed the path of a person with practical skills (but no math background) who has opted to start at community college to their final destination of graduating from a four-year engineering program, and the questions that arise along the way. Who are they? Are they in the right place?

There needs to be a balance between abstract and applied content, including for evaluation for grades. There is a link through design. Students can close the apparent rift by completing a project in which theory and design are valued.

Students are taught to “learn to learn” so that they understand that various outcomes are valuable.

Structural accommodations allow for a diversity of students to have access to education. Many ‘non-traditional’ students attending community college for engineering are, for example, returning-learners, parents, part time, or low socio-economic status, so providing night classes or alternate models of delivery of material will allow them to attend. Providing a clear list of accepted welcomed pathways would also help.

Discussion
There was discussion around the ‘business case’ model and its effectiveness for this application.
There was a comment about giving students credit for prior experience, as long as it included a reflection process about the experience. This helps to bridge the gap.
Comments were made about the need for a positive identity for engineering students.
Outreach programs were discussed: need to get many schools involved and make the experience authentic and relevant.
Increasing tuition fees in the US/UK were discussed. US = self-destruct; UK = little effect so far, but larger changes coming that might change the picture.

Notes from Katy from “Toward a Critical Praxis for Engineering, Social Justice, and Peace”

  • Institute ESJP awards for students (undergrad, grad) and faculty
  • Share ESJP activities, findings, etc at more mainstream conferences
  • develop communities of practice in different countries to promote local dialogue and praxis
  • scrupling (wine & cheese) with local engineers, town hall meetings
  • encourage more students to participate in ESJP conferences
  • global north trained by the global south
  • common projects
  • community and engineers meetings
  • porting existing SJ curricular integration to other universities via students and faculty and make part of engineering design criteria
  • teach SJ via case studies
  • surveillance technology
  • complex situations need complex, but still values-based responses
  • more opportunities for faculty to participate in student activities; reward this behaviour – faculty member as mentor, help recognize academic dimension
  • networking forum – support network
  • invite experienced practitioners into the classroom [can be titled “visiting professors”]
  • train ESJP ambassadors: for going into companies, for public outreach, for embedding in engineering labs/courses, etc.
  • mining
  • working for/against corporate management
  • integrate SJ into engineering courses (when relevant to course objectives)
  • producing and sharing knowledge (eg books, workshops, key note speakers events)
  • train/educate faculty on how to integrate SHJ into their courses
  • local professional engineering society to have a voice on social justice issues
  • pro-bono engineering practice – ID existing programs, working with professional societies
  • what is ‘informed citizenry from global prospectus?
  • a global exercise: who benefits, who pays? in many classes, post answers on web
  • ASEE activism – provocative posters on SJ themes
  • Do we assume our students are unable to arrive at “the right” position?
  • Are we making SJ the only/primary focus of engineering?
  • Trust the students…

Transformative Social Justice Workshops for Engineering Educators

Jon Leydens, Juan Lucena, and Jen Schneider presented a session with the goal of developing a workshop for teaching engineering faculty about social justice. They piloted part of the workshop in order to observe the group’s discussion of the material.

They presented six mindsets identified by Riley (Engineering and Social Justice, Morgan and Claypool, 2008) in her analysis of engineering culture as exemplified in jokes told within the profession about the profession:
o Positivist epistemology / Myth of Objectivity
o Commitment to Problem Solving /Reductionism
o Desire to Help/Persistence
o Centrality of Military/Corporate Orgs
o Narrow Technical Focus/Lack of Other skills
o Uncritical Acceptance of Authority

While Riley argues that these mindsets ought not to be thought of “engineering mindsets” per se, they are clearly present among some engineering students and practicing engineers. Leydens, Lucena, and Schneider posited that these mindsets may present barriers to teaching engineering faculty about social justice, particularly related to four elements of social justice education proposed for engineering faculty:
o Awareness and dismantling of privilege
o Fostering empathy
o Integrating personal and professional selves
o Incorporating critical pedagogy and other social justice interventions in the classroom

During the session three groups were asked to consider how two of the mindsets identified by Riley act as barriers to each of the four social justice education goals identified by Leydens, Lucena, and Schneider. While the groups didn’t have time to complete the task, and some conversation did not necessarily answer the question prompts directly, the report below captures some of the highlights from each group’s conversation.

Group 1: Positivism/Objectivity and Problem Solving/Reductionism
How to break down privilege: In Columbia, poverty is visible, and being in university at all represents economic privilege. In the US, people tend to believe what they have achieved is based on merit not privilege. So there are different challenges in different contexts. One solution for a workshop with professors is to look at their history and ask them where in their journey they benefited from privilege.

How to foster empathy: Don’t challenge neutrality of technology, but elicit what is bad and good about a particular technology. Now technology is no longer neutral.

How to promote integration: Present case studies with an emphasis on social and technical problems. Relate to different content subjects.

How to incorporate critical pedagogy: Reward structure has to change. Meet faculty interests.

Group 2: Desire to Help/Persistence and Centrality of Military/Corporate Orgs

Desire to Help/Persistence
Privilege:
Have semi-structured discussion looking at similarities and differences between privileged and non-privileged groups. Role-play and simulation activities. Concern that faculty would have difficulty in seeing the connection between role-play and reality. Faculty could do energy audit or ecological footprint. Real data on graph, then compare to a different setting to highlight difference

Integration:
Isn’t it socially unjust for a professor to lecture values as if their view is the only right one? Students need a chance to form their own opinions and voice them, not just learn facts. Encourage roundtable discussions, sharing in classroom.

Military/Corporate
Privilege: Explore possible places engineers can work, generate alternatives to military/corporate. Government/NGO/entrepreneurial alumni/ae come back and talk about what they use from a course and how social justice issues come up in their lives. Home vs. work lives – ask professors whether they act the same or not at home vs. at work?

Where there are global compact agreements it is important to pay critical attention to whether these are surface agreements that represent lip service or whether agreements are substantively reflected in actual practice.

Group 3: Narrow Technical Focus/Lack of Other skills and Uncritical Acceptance of Authority
For all learning elements: Role-play. But it might be challenging to do this in a group of faculty or in a professional setting because it may be outside their comfort zone. Another idea is to have a quiz like in a magazine with point tallies that tell you something about your values. Or create/design scenarios, then ask faculty to think about their values and how they would apply in a given scenario.

This group found it problematic to have been presented with the mindsets as barriers to the four educational goals. They wanted to address or undo the mindsets rather than potentially reinforce them or work around them in trying to meet the four educational goals.

Reconceptualizing engineers and engineering practice

Title: Where are the engineers?

Usman begins his presentation by showing us two pictures—one of the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, and one of a “fake lake” from the site (a “flake”!), built so that tourists can enjoy an air conditioned, accessible “countryside” without actually having to go into the country (man, what would Ed Abbey say about that?). Tons of money was quite obviously spent on setting up the infrastructure for the Olympics, but what was much less visible was the destruction of public lands, the displacement of homeless and indigenous peoples, and the disproportionate impacts on people of color and living in poverty—all created by the investment in the infrastructure itself.

So, the question we have to ask about this contradiction is, Where are the engineers? What do engineers interested in justice have to say about this?

Answers might come to us from authors like Audre Lorde, whose famous essay on “dismantling the master’s house” argues that we cannot take down the “master’s house”–dominant structures of control or power—with the master’s tools. Other tools of deconstruction (and even destruction) are required. Here are some good tools:

Ursula Franklin provides us with some tools for doing this dismantling work. Usman notes that one of Franklin’s arguments was that “prescriptive production leads to injustice” and is “not challenging assumptions of systems” that are unjust. For example, one justification for the invention of sewing machines was to make “women’s work” easier. At the same time, however, sewing machines led to the means of exploiting vast numbers of women in unjust industrial work (i.e., in sweat shops).

More inspiration comes from Paulo Freire, whose work Pedagogy of the Oppressed suggests some of the ways in which the master’s tools (such as language, or formal education) are unjust and imprisoning. He proposes ways we might subvert and dismantle these structures of injustice. He believed “resistance was necessary to breaking oppression,” and that people need to go through a process of “conscientization” so as to come into consciousness of their own role as the oppressed, but also as having the agency to resist that oppression.

In Engineering and Social Justice, Donna Riley argues that claiming our own autonomy might be a crucial first step in promoting or claiming social justice. Usman notes that one interesting historical example of this would be artisan guilds in the Netherlands. The guilds functioned as collective entities, protecting the autonomy of its members. Reciprocity is a key part of this, too—artisans need to be able to provide feedback about whether and how things are to be built, rather than just “doing what they are told.”

So what does this mean for engineering? Usman wraps up by arguing that it is not so much a need to set up steps, loops, graphs or flowcharts, but of adopting a mindset geared to dismantling the master’s house.

Jen wonders: Usman notes that these are “tools” for dismantling the master’s house, yet these tools look very different from those that many engineers are used to using. It strikes me that a presentation like Usman’s is aiming at a “conscientization” of its own—to begin to signal to engineers or sensitize them to different ways of seeing and being in the world. But, in practical terms, I wonder if some engineers might wonder or ask, “Okay, so I’m starting to get it. I’m interested in this justice stuff. So now what?” Are there structures or support networks that are reaching practicing engineers or engineering students who do enter this justice-oriented consciousness, or who are already there?

In other words, what responsibility do we have to students to not only expose them to various forms of consciousness or awareness, but also to provide them with real tools for resistance. Say you are an engineer working in a cube at a firm that gets primarily defense contracts. What kind of a “guild” might serve this engineer? To do what? Is autonomy even possible in this context, or are we only interested in reaching engineers already outside these corporate settings?

I’m thinking of Michel de Certeau’s The Practice of Everyday Life, a book about different modes of social resistance that calls us to be aware of power differentials. He argues there is a difference between “strategies” and “tactics.” We can have “strategies” to fight for social justice—plans to fight against structures of inequality. To enact these strategies, however, frequently requires a priori a certain amount of status or power to begin with. What about people who are embedded (trapped?) in systems in which power or autonomy are not easily acquired or accessed?

De Certeau argues that in this case, we need to pay attention to “tactics,” the ways in which the disenfranchised or disempowered subvert structures of power or oppression by turning the system back on itself. Workers in a factory setting, for example, may do their work more slowly so as to subvert productivity quotas. Or they might purposely break machinery in order to secure breaks themselves. De Certeau reminds us that these subversive acts have revolutionary value—though not as visible—just as strategies do. These arguments, and ones like them (such as those made by Scott in Seeing Like a State) deserve our attention as we label which forms of consciousness are “really” just and deserve our attention and encouragement.

Session 2 (Thursday)

Cynthia and Deborah led the attendees in a workshop to show how they lead students to consider social context in engineering projects. The first question they asked the audience is what types of information would they ask in deciding where a company’s new factory would be located among three locations: rural Alabama in the US, suburbs of Chicago, in Thailand. They talked about their research program, CELT, which looks at:

  • What does the design process look like? When and how much problem scoping and information is needed to complete a design?
They asked students to talk about floods in the midwest US and what they would do to address the problem. Most students concentrated on the technical factors of the problem and mostly technical problem associated with the immediate design solution (not even technical issues outside of the immediate design). 
 
Gender differences: Women cited more broad factors than men.
 
Donna pointed to a study “Trained to Disengage” that was presented at the ASEE conference that showed how students over the course of their engineering education career become more politically disengaged. 
 
When students did look at the stakeholders of the project, many more of them were concerned about shareholders & employees of the company. Clients never even came up! When thinking of space, students were concerned about the company and space for the employees but also the local community. Students wanted to know primarily about cost/logistics of the factory but very little wanted to know about environmental impacts. Students were shown this data and many of them were surprised at the different ways of designing and claimed that broader thinking would be helpful. 
 
Then connections between context and justice were made for the students by asking them questions such as:
  • How is the community impacted socially and environmentally by the factory?
  • How will the working conditions of the employees be decided? How would a new factory affect them?
Students responded with saying that such an exercise was “difficult” and “weird”. Some of them did say though that the problem was “interesting” and it made them think about engineering in a new way. 
 
Finally, Cynthia and Deborah asked the attendees “how an assessment technique like the one they discussed [assessment of context considerations] be revised and extended to encourage reflection/dialogue/learning about social justice”.
 
Jon answered by saying we can build in “social impact” throughout the course as in a design course instead of being an add-on.
 
Arias recommended that instead of three far away places for factory location, three locations more familiar to the students could be picked. That way the example is authentic for them. He added that we can’t always tell engineering students that THEY have the decision. Engineers should not be taught within the context of expert power.

Session Panel session service learning – in the service of social justice

Thursday, August 5, 2010 ESJP Conference, London Typed by Lisa McLoughlin Panel session service learning: in the service of social justice

Dean Nieusma: Public participation in engineering design practice

We are all going together where my abstract points.

I am inviting you all to participate in the participatory action research project which was framed at this conference last year: the questions, approaches, and answers all evolve together and change together—the idea is to frame a bigger ambitios project and anyone who wants to participate can take ownership and contribute.

The abstract is a piece of the project I have taken ownership for and I am ask you to participate.’’

The 3 facets of organization: Research, taking care of the group, practice <<<<<(?) 4 areas from last year 1)skills inventory 2) past-current research of yours central to SJP work 3) questions you would like answered about ESJP work 4) main approaches to ESJP you employ----how and where you do ESJP work- compiling these gets an interesting concept In conversations yesterday a 5th item came up: in the spirit of the bibliography, a clearinghouse list of people who are doing work in this area already. For me this would be bounded by people who are explicitly attending to social power. Feel free to email me about any of the above. I agree to coordinate the ongoing research project which will change from year to year. Neiusma at rpi.edu My research (see the abstract) I am interested in expertise as a concept mostly because when we use expertise we have in our mind a muddled mix of specialized knowledge and institutional authority. Lots of people have specialized knowledge that we do not automatically assume as expert---people who are not recognized as experts legitimately are not entitled to speak. Decisions that impact your life should have your input, but often these people are not allowed to speak (e.g. a village in Shri

Q&A for Session 1 (Thursday)

Heather started off the discussion by asking Dean about experts. Dean argued that relationships determine who gets called an expert and who doesn't. For example, a local community NGO in Sri Lanka is treated as the "community" by their

World Bank partner, but when that NGO goes into the community, they are considered experts.

Juan pointed to how Lizzie was included in the ESJP discussion and why she was included but not a rep from Proctor & Gamble. Donna replied that it's Lizzie's willingness to critique EWB-Oz as opposed to P&G. Donna added that she's conflicted about EWB, particularly the EWB-USA chapter she's had some experience with. Caroline added that she, too, was conflicted about her "Waste for Life" project but she's sick of just talking about justice and not doing something about it.
Juan asked the group if we're willing to engage corporate/industry folks if they self-critique. Caroline/Donna said absolutely. Eric countered by pointing out how industry can't sell critique and if ESJP engages with industry on this level, we will compromise our principles of critique. He further asked the audience if it is possible for corporate/industry to ever care about social justice?
Dean added that a person situated in a corporation who's interested in social justice and can self-critique can come to ESJP but as a person not as a representative of the corporation.
Caroline added that ESJP can serve as a place for critiques/discussion of development work. Lizzie mentioned that she might have misframed her presentation. However, audience members countered that there are ways to work with justice within certain constraints/boundaries and outside them as well (but both are important).
Parting question of the session: can the state engage with social justice as well?